In conversation with Gloria Wekker
by Paul Gilroy and Gloria Wekker
![Gloria Wekker](/racism-racialisation/sites/racism_racialisation/files/publication/sprc_podcast_gloria_wekker.jpg)
8 October 2020
, author of White Innocence: Paradoxes of Colonialism and Race, discusses white innocence and colour-blindness in the Netherlands; reflecting on the country’s relationship with colonialism, its lack of discourse about race, and the importance of intergenerational knowledge exchange. Gloria also looks back on her experiences in the US: the moment she learned she was black, how the prom shaped her understanding of intersectionality, and the significance of having a black female professor for the first time.
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